South African Hip Hop has grown throughout the years and we've seen some cats blow the hell up since coming onto the scene. It's not news that Stogie T is one of the OGs in the game so of course, he'd feel the need to weigh in on the current state of SA Hip Hop while also looking at how far it's come. He is known to ruffle some feathers when it comes to these kinds of debates but at the end of the day, it's all about the culture and some cats could use some schooling. The rapper went on Twitter yesterday to share his views and also drop some need to know facts about the South African Hip Hop industry along with how some of our favourite rappers got into the game. He made a thread of twenty points and although some names didn't sound familiar, it's always good to have some knowledge of how things started.
1. I want to propose something to you folks. Le Club has been the single most influential institution to hip hop in South Africa.
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
2. Le Club was an Afternoon night club that hosted Dj's, rap battles, cypher outside, bboys, stylists, future fashion moguls even
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
3. The 10 most influential characters in SA Hip Hop came from Le Club or where loosely associated with it. I am talking now the music.
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
4. The 10 most important Lance Stehr, Bradley, Thabiso Kati, Sipho Sithole, Benza, Slikour, Prokid, Dzino, Oskido and Cassper.
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
5. Nobody can deny that Caspper's cultural moment has had the biggest impact on SAhiphop. Can argue if that's good or bad but it's fact
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
6. Lance Sterh was the first to release legitimate hip hop in South Africa, touring groups in Europe. Gave us Amu, POC, Jozi, Morafe, Tuks.
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
7. Bradley Williams ran Le Club with DJ Blaze but went on to formalize relationships with brands and co owns Motif. Riky, Reason, Tumi.
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
8. Sipho Sithole signed Skwatta Kamp to their landmark deal at the time, the first big money major label deal. Gave usZakwe, Zuluboy, prokid
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
PAUSE
STOP TRYING TO ARGUE AND JUST LISTEN WHEN YOUR DUMB ASS GETTING SCHOOLED.
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
9. Thabiso Hip Hop Scholar used to sell NY mixtapes outside Le Club. Went on to start Cashtime but also worked L Tido, Prokid, and Amu.
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
10. Prokid changed the country, he was uncompromising and authentic. Made the whole hood fuck with hip hop before him we were amapunka.
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
11. Dzino from Outrageous records was a cultural purveyor and built a formidable empire. Gave us Zubz, H20, Battle Kat, optical illusion
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
12. Slikour has successfully flipped his dope mc skills into a respected relevant online media platform that helps to develop young talent.
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
13. Raphael Benza is a shrewd business man who was helped build the artist that broke the glass ceiling for English speaking rappers in SA.
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
14. Oskido is the guy in the shadows who has helped every huge SA hip hop artist without getting his due respect. Trust me they know
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
15. What I am saying here is this folks. Most of the biggest moments in SAHip Hop have had people from within the culture running them.
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
16. Recently we have seen a lot of capital injection from folks outside the culture trying to buy in. That's cool get your money BUT...
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
17. ...the danger of that is they don't care about KO's bars or Prokid's content, or YoungstaCPT's story, they just want success.
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
18. They got rappers singing, dancing, kooning, faking, Pretending, shit even fucking slowly wasting their health away.
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
19. The people I mentioned were not perfect but at least they cared enough for the culture that everything that came out still was hip hop.
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
20. Cara Cara, Tswaa Da, Run Jozi, No Sleep, Amantobazane remix, Soweto. Think of the bigger hip hop his they were still fucking rap songs.
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
But wait, there's more.
21. I know. Old Nigga Shit. Cool, but if the old nigga can still outrapnthe fuck outta the new nigga you gotta be scared for the culture. ❤️
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
He meant "out rap" and yes, he can.
Shoutout to Ready D, Tibz, Refiloe, Lindelani, Blaze, Gini Grindith, Allen Friedman, Arthur, TKZee, Senyaka, https://t.co/y9cvww9HBB
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
Gave us proverb too https://t.co/7nCnN18fFl
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
Gave us Kwesta https://t.co/6XoztsrdRu
— STOGIE T ???? (@TumiMolekane) October 3, 2017
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